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im with you Zerg spawn, i love WW2 weapons, they beast!!

my favs are

1) the BAR because it looks so intimidating. it jammed a lot and had a small clip capacity but it packed a big punch could lay down some coordinated fire when used within a platoon or saqud.

2) the MP40 because it was so inovative. The way the Germans made it was hella smart (with rivets and thick sheet metal instead of the classic heavy steel parts being welded/bent/cast into shape. and could have been put to way better use if the High Command of the Germans weren't such dumbasses.

3) the Stg44 because it too was so innovative. It was the grand-daddy of all modern assault rifles and if it would have been developed sooner in the war it would have given the Allies a big problem.

4) the Colt .45 its a good reliable pistol and my fav caliber

5) and even though it isnt really a gun i liked the sherman tank because it was so quick, and easy to manufacture. they could play hide and seek with the panzers in urban settings but in open fields they got decimated

For whatever it is worth since it seems like its on topic, but my favorite WW2 Era weapon was the M1A1 Carbine.

It doesn't have impressive firepower nor the fancy range, but it did what it was designed to do.

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The AK-47 7.62mm cartridge has better penetration than M16 5.46 cartridge. Their accuracy is pretty much the same.

Imo biggest difference at them is that AK-47 is way more resistant of dirt and sand and less prone to jamming.
Another difference is that M-16 has smaller recoil because of the smaller cartridge so it might have better effective firing speed.

That's great and all, except we were talking about the AK-74, not the AK-47. They fire different cartridges.

Oh right. Forget everything I said about the caliber. The dirt and sand resistance should hold true though.

Random Statement, but honestly, I really wonder how many AK-47s are actually AK-47s when they are mentioned on the news or on shows. I mean, they generally generalize AKM, RPK, and the handful of country variants etc as 47s, but they are all probably not actual 47s. Over-glorified?

No doubt that its a reliable, dirt/mud/water lasting, never jamming weapon, but do people just consider anything to look like a Kalashnikov as a 47?

Due to the media and videogames, yes, Dino.
They are over-glorified, in my opinion. But hey, what's a redneck guy like me know, eh? lol

This was a bit of a tough choice for me, would've gone shotguns (since I like their stopping power xD) but I chose rifles as my fav. I don't own any guns, but I did try out a BB sniper rifle one of my relatives was working with (I don't know squat about gun names >.>) a couple of years back. Suffice to say, I suck at aiming with that thing, couldn't even hit an empty soda can with it.

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I personally feel that pistols are more personable and versatile than the other two, and you can hide them on your person pretty much anywhere; this is important to me as whenever i think of someone carrying a shotgun or rifle, the only people that appear in my mind are rednecks, and not that I have anything against rednecks in particular, that just isn't the look that I'm going for. Plus I think it looks classy and secret agent-like.

^Not to mention that carrying rifles and shotguns out in the open is summat suspicious.

Anyways moar Sub 2000 Pics:

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I should mention that anyone who says that they are carrying guns, pistols or shotguns or whatever in public places probably sounds like a someone who should be locked up or atleast a redneck for people outside US since in lots of countries handgun and other gun permissions are hard to come by and carrying them in public sounds just outright crazy.

Seriously?.. Heah in L'Mexique Doing the opposite is crazy!!!... haha...

Guns, btw.

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I should mention that anyone who says that they are carrying guns, pistols or shotguns or whatever in public places probably sounds like a someone who should be locked up or atleast a redneck for people outside US since in lots of countries handgun and other gun permissions are hard to come by and carrying them in public sounds just outright crazy.

Seriously?.. Heah in L'Mexique Doing the opposite is crazy!!!... haha...

Guns, btw.

I guess Im mainly talking about Europe and some Asian countries. >.>

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Random Statement, but honestly, I really wonder how many AK-47s are actually AK-47s when they are mentioned on the news or on shows. I mean, they generally generalize AKM, RPK, and the handful of country variants etc as 47s, but they are all probably not actual 47s. Over-glorified?

No doubt that its a reliable, dirt/mud/water lasting, never jamming weapon, but do people just consider anything to look like a Kalashnikov as a 47?

Absolutely! People, in general, are quite ignorant of firearms. And if their knowledge is coming from media such as movies, tv, video games, then it will be even worse.

I consider myself a firearms enthusiast, and I can't tell the difference between an AK-47, SKS, AKM, etc. at a glance. People judge by appearances. And the AK-47 is the most numerous firearm in the world, whatever variants you choose. They are all based on the same action. So, it makes sense that people would conclude that a firearm that looks like an AK-47, is an AK-47.

The media (at least in the US) is ignorant of firearms. They throw the term "assault weapon" around like it really means something. They don't know the difference among cartridges and firearms. The list goes on and on.

People interchange the words "clip" and "magazine" like they mean the same thing.

These are just small examples to give you a taste.

@Atech: You're right about the AKs being more resistant to dirt and grime. That was a huge issue for the US during Vietnam. They have made improvements to the M-16 and its variants, but they still have problems. This is due to the M-16 having much tighter machining tolerances and the lack of a chrome lined barrel. It's also why M-16s are generally more accurate.

The main reason for M-16 having better accuracy is probably because of its longer lenght and longer sights. Both rifles generally have reputation of being very accurate. I dont think there is much difference in their accuracy outside of that and the cartridge atleast for 300 meter range since both can hit on a matchbox if they are in a good condition.

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The main reason for M-16 having better accuracy is probably because of its longer sights. Both rifles generally have reputation of being very accurate. There are lots of versions of both rifles with different lenght of sights.

I don't know what gun circles you run in, but I don't believe I have ever heard people mention AKs being known for accuracy. Having lose-fitting metal parts and wide tolerances inside your gun doesn't lend to accuracy. Sure, they have some sniper versions of the firearm, but those aren't standard and have different tolerances. Neither the M-16 or the AK-47 in their standard forms are going to win any shooting contests without some serious modifications. The M-16 might just require less modifications.

When you say longer sights, are you referring to the barrel length or the actual sights?

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The main reason for M-16 having better accuracy is probably because of its longer sights. Both rifles generally have reputation of being very accurate. There are lots of versions of both rifles with different lenght of sights.

I don't know what gun circles you run in, but I don't believe I have ever heard people mention AKs being known for accuracy. Having lose-fitting metal parts and wide tolerances inside your gun doesn't lend to accuracy. Sure, they have some sniper versions of the firearm, but those aren't standard and have different tolerances. Neither the M-16 or the AK-47 in their standard forms are going to win any shooting contests without some serious modifications. The M-16 might just require less modifications.

When you say longer sights, are you referring to the barrel length or the actual sights?

M-16 have both longer barrel lenght and longer sights which is huge factor about accuracy.

AKs are well known for their accuracy as well. There is no difference with those two rifles with 300 meter range since both can hit pretty much any spot there. Basically the both guns are already as accurate as needed and do not miss unless the shooter sucks or has wrong sight settings.

Anyway their accuracy difference is not that large that it would be relevant in anywhere else than shooting contests and it is pointless to compare since there are so many versions of both rifles which have different modifications. The M16a1 version did have accuracy problems, and there are better versions of AK-47 as well than the year 47 version.

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M-16 have both longer barrel lenght and longer sights which is huge factor about accuracy.

AKs are well known for their accuracy as well. There is no difference with those two rifles with 300 meter range since both can hit pretty much any spot there. Machinery tolerances do not affect much because it fires with lock closed and no thing is moving inside the gun before it is firing.

Alas, if only accuracy were that simple. There are many factors that influence accuracy: cartridge, bullet, barrel machining, chamber tolerance, bolt-to-chamber fit, barrel length, trigger, shooter, conditions, etc.

Longer barrel length can add to velocity and accuracy by allowing the bullet to travel in the rifling longer, but it's no guarantee. For example, I have a Remington Model 7 with an 18.5" barrel chambered in 222 Rem that will outshoot my Winchester Model 70 30-06 Sprg with a 24" barrel.

Machining tolerances can affect accuracy. If the AK-47 has poor rifling, a loose chamber, and poor bolt-to-chamber fit, this can dramatically influence accuracy in that firearm. If the M-16 has better machining for the above mentioned features, it will likely shoot better. The drawback to these tight tolerances is that dirt and grime will jam the gun easier, because there isn't any room between parts. Kalashnikov purposely designed the AK-47 with loose tolerances so it would be more reliable. He wasn't going for accuracy, he was going for dependability in bad conditions.

I have no idea what longer sights means, but that could just be a language barrier. Most M-16s are equipped with simple aperture sights, or more recently, Trijicon ACOG Scopes. An AK-47 could be similarly equipped if it had the mounts.